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		<title>Election 2010 held under usual mayhem</title>
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			<title>HOBA is a body that represents the interests of th</title>
			<link>https://abdalians.com/component/content/article/39-abdalians-activities/687-election-2010-held-under-usual-mayhem.html#comment-41</link>
			<description><![CDATA[\"HOBA has no say over Abdalians, but Abdalians who pay their dues may have their say in HOBA\".
HOBA represents the interests of Old Abdalian, and indeed there is a track record to show that, a prime example would be the arrest of Dr Aamir Aziz by the authorities in Pakistan. It was HOBA and its relentless efforts that assured the release of him; otherwise the gentleman would be on the list of the still missing.
As abdalians we de need a body that brings us together and HOBA is the only one with enough influence and political clout to do so.
Furthermore I agree with Kamran Niaz that \"but Abdalians who pay their dues may have their say in HOBA\". Anyone who disagrees with this statment please come forward with a solid argument against it. If you want to make changes in the byelaws then I have a suggestion, it only takes Pk Rs3,000 to become a member and once you do it then you have every right to vote for/against any ammendment. Pay your dues and let your vote count.
It is sad that almost 500 abdalians showed up at the reunion but only 80-90 of them stayed for the elections. All of the rest were free loaders/crashers. Yes they are Abdalians but with no class and vision.
We must recognise the contribution of Sir Nayyar Islam to HOBA. HOBA stands tall today because of his hard work and dedication.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Qaisar Manzoor</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:25:41 +0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Kamran Niaz says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[There is a simple rule of all associations and bodies. Any amendments in the constitiun or by-laws of an association have to be presented before the General Body at the Annual General Body (AGM). And if the changes are voted in, take effect subsequently.
I am Secretary of the International School in Tashkent, and all amendments in Policy, Governance, Fee Structure, etc., can not take place unless they are put in front of the AGM (the parent body) in April, no matter how much discussions and participation may have taken place earlier. So this is the way normal Associations operate/function. The office holders are not Thekaydars to change the rules- they are the guardians of the office.
I think it is time to make a clear distinction, as I have mentioned in my other email, between members of HOBA and the ABDALIANS.
When HOBA hosts a function, it should not and can not be an ABDALIAN get together. It is, and should be a HOBA get together, that should be open only to members in good standing who have paid their dues. HOBA may then ask them further to pay for the cost of the dinner, etc. Similarly, only HOBA members should be allowed to vote, participate, and discuss matters that pertain to HOBA. HOBA may however try to expand its membership based on its goodwill that it may promote.
As for ABDALIANS they are free to associate with whatever, and freely attend the ABDALIAN get togethers and reunions, that they may organize and arrange as well as any charity projects, etc. based on a common trust between each other.
HOBA has no say over ABDALIANS, but ABDALIANS who pay theiir dues may have their say in HOBA!!!!
Lets make this clear distinction and promote it, so that there are no hard feelings about anything.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kamran Niaz</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:40:39 +0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Who is the reunion for?</title>
			<link>https://abdalians.com/component/content/article/39-abdalians-activities/687-election-2010-held-under-usual-mayhem.html#comment-37</link>
			<description><![CDATA[One issue that has been raised is that only those who pay the dues/registration of the HOBA (or Abdalian Association) can be the members and therefore vote.
The Abdalian reunion is for Abdalians who are Abdalians Once and For Ever!
The elections for HOBA should not be mixed up with the Abdalians reunion - since it is open for all. I think there is a need to separate the two. Let all Abdalians come and participate in the reunion function - speeches, lunch, travel down the memory lane, friendly matches and so on...
Then HOBA should have its closed door sessions - that would allow only the members of the Association to come in, discuss whatever issues they have and hold their elections and leave in peace.
Not dragging ABDALIANS and senior teachers into it. Let ABDALIANS stay out of it, since in any case its not their business on what HOBA does, how it elects its members, etc.
Can we somehow convey this to all, especially the ABDALIANS and CCH administration and somehow stick to this. All unpleasantaries that we see each year occur becuase of this HOBA/ABDALIAN debate. So lets make a very clear distinction between this.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kamran Niaz</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:23:03 +0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Tariq O. Rehman says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[AoA Sir
At this site the slogan is still valid :) Nobody pays a single penny to register here. But I am though grateful to some friends who pay for this site and the maintenance costs.
Didn\'t the sale price drop to Rs. 3,500/- on election day? Seemed more like a Stock Exchange!
Warm regards to you Sir
TO]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Tariq O. Rehman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:29:48 +0500</pubDate>
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			<title>Abdalian once - Abdalian forever on sale for Rs. 6</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear All Abdalians,
It is for information of all Abdalians that the slogan of Abdalian once - Abdalian forever has now been changed yesterday by the HOBA and new slogan by HOBA is that Abdalian for ever is now a sale commodity for Rs. 6500/- otherwise, he cannot be an Abdalian any more.
Mr. Tariq Obaid-ur-Rehman, you kindly now change your slogan of Abdalian once - Abdalian forever since nineteen hundred fifty four on the website of http://www.abdalians.com as being maintained by you.
The official website of HOBA of www.abdalian.net.pk also contained this slogan Once Abdalian, Forever Abdalian - Forever Abdalian - Once Abdalian. They are also requested to kindly change it now.
Anyhow, I am not quitting the HOBA. The reason is very simple one. I got registered all the Momorandum of Association from the Registrar of Societies, Islamabad as was approved by the Full House unanimously under the then President ship of Air Marshal Abbas Khattak and which contained the slogan \"Once Abdalian - Forever Abdalian.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Engineer Jameel Ahmad Malik</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:42:45 +0500</pubDate>
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